ok when i was london i saw these shoes, and i wanted them so badly, however- it was at a point when i had absolutely no money and the future was looking bleak. so i left them. it was my main regret. the store that i found them in was the store that johnny rotten bought his first pair of creepers from, amongst other awesome people like, Viv West and Malcolm Mclaren. Not going to lie, i may have online ordered them.